Comments on: Goodmail, Esther Dyson, Andrew Orlowski, etc. http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/ Technology ... politics ... marketing ... strategy ... life Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:49:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Text Technologies»Blog Archive » So THAT’S why Andrew Orlowski still has a job (Part 2) http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-7089 Text Technologies»Blog Archive » So THAT’S why Andrew Orlowski still has a job (Part 2) Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:55:34 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-7089 [...] Andrew Orlowski is an over-the-top jerk, and a pretty sloppy reporter and analyst to boot. But he occasionally makes a good point even so. In the most recent instance, he confronted Tim Berners-Lee. As the article makes clear, Berners-Lee reacted badly to Orlowski, reflecting an attitude that is probably shared by 99% of the people who encounter the guy, and in the future will probably be adopted by sentient computers as well. Even so, Orlowski’s underlying point is valid: If the Semantic Web is going to be any more spam-free than the current Web, nobody has adequately explained why. [...] [...] Andrew Orlowski is an over-the-top jerk, and a pretty sloppy reporter and analyst to boot. But he occasionally makes a good point even so. In the most recent instance, he confronted Tim Berners-Lee. As the article makes clear, Berners-Lee reacted badly to Orlowski, reflecting an attitude that is probably shared by 99% of the people who encounter the guy, and in the future will probably be adopted by sentient computers as well. Even so, Orlowski’s underlying point is valid: If the Semantic Web is going to be any more spam-free than the current Web, nobody has adequately explained why. [...]

]]> By: gogoG http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-4341 gogoG Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:05:18 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-4341 There are advanced email filters now but they can not filter every spam mail. There are advanced email filters now but they can not filter
every spam mail.

]]> By: Leonard Sherman http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-1937 Leonard Sherman Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:04:17 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-1937 There is absolutely no need to require additional fee's to send email. Dyson's assessment of such a system is flawed and will only assure that spammers who pay the appropriate fee's will be guaranteed that the spam they generate will not be filtered. Furthermore, any attempts to control email via filtering will be quickly circumvented. On the upside spam is relatively easy to detect thus can be readily filtered. If you are not filtering your mail then do it, or at least learn how. Viewed as systems neither email nor filters are perfect. True, even the finest filters can yield false positives now and then. But when informing someone of something vital or of critical importance I should hope one does not chose email as the medium through which to convey it. There is absolutely no need to require additional fee’s to send email. Dyson’s assessment of such a system is flawed and will only assure that spammers who pay the appropriate fee’s will be guaranteed that the spam they generate will not be filtered. Furthermore, any attempts to control email via filtering will be quickly circumvented. On the upside spam is relatively easy to detect thus can be readily filtered. If you are not filtering your mail then do it, or at least learn how. Viewed as systems neither email nor filters are perfect. True, even the finest filters can yield false positives now and then. But when informing someone of something vital or of critical importance I should hope one does not chose email as the medium through which to convey it.

]]> By: Leonard Sherman http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-1936 Leonard Sherman Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:51:16 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-1936 There is absolutely no need for additional fee's to send email messages. There is absolutely no need for additional fee’s to send email messages.

]]> By: The Monash Report»Blog Archive » So THAT’S why Andrew Orlowski still has a job http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-1106 The Monash Report»Blog Archive » So THAT’S why Andrew Orlowski still has a job Mon, 03 Jul 2006 04:37:33 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-1106 [...] Good things can come from the oddest sources, like mushrooms from a guano cave. And thus an amusing and worthwhile article has appeared under Andrew Orlowski’s byline. It’s over-the-top, of course, but hey — it IS an Orlowski piece, after all. [...] [...] Good things can come from the oddest sources, like mushrooms from a guano cave. And thus an amusing and worthwhile article has appeared under Andrew Orlowski’s byline. It’s over-the-top, of course, but hey — it IS an Orlowski piece, after all. [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-557 Anonymous Fri, 02 Jun 2006 05:52:19 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-557 I have had many personal conversations with Esther, and tracked a good deal of her work elsewhere. Yes, she's smart. That doesn't mean she's always right. The same goes for, say, Bill Gates. He's not always right either, and I think he's smart too. The same, for that matter, goes for me. (Yes, I talk to myself on occasion.) Or to pick a public figure who I don't know personally, but happened to see on TV a few days ago -- Noam Chomsky is a very smart guy, but he isn't always right either. And while I agree Orlowski is a funny guy, he's also a lazy, dishonest, and/or stupid journalist. My best guess is that he's all three. CAM I have had many personal conversations with Esther, and tracked a good deal of her work elsewhere. Yes, she’s smart. That doesn’t mean she’s always right. The same goes for, say, Bill Gates. He’s not always right either, and I think he’s smart too. The same, for that matter, goes for me. (Yes, I talk to myself on occasion.)

Or to pick a public figure who I don’t know personally, but happened to see on TV a few days ago — Noam Chomsky is a very smart guy, but he isn’t always right either.

And while I agree Orlowski is a funny guy, he’s also a lazy, dishonest, and/or stupid journalist. My best guess is that he’s all three.

CAM

]]> By: Dr S Jones http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-486 Dr S Jones Thu, 25 May 2006 00:20:14 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-486 Some of Silicon Valley's biggest egos appear to be the most fragile. Andrew is a very funny critic, and Esther Dyson is anything but smart. If you can't stand the heat - what are you doing in the kitchen? Some of Silicon Valley’s biggest egos appear to be the most fragile. Andrew is a very funny critic, and Esther Dyson is anything but smart.

If you can’t stand the heat - what are you doing in the kitchen?

]]> By: The Monash Report»Blog Archive » Spam: the bottom line http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-202 The Monash Report»Blog Archive » Spam: the bottom line Tue, 02 May 2006 10:52:00 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-202 [...] Thus I stand by my prior opinion: Sender-pay systems are a good idea if and only if some of that pay goes directly to the email recipients. • • • [...] [...] Thus I stand by my prior opinion: Sender-pay systems are a good idea if and only if some of that pay goes directly to the email recipients. • • • [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-34 Anonymous Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:30:15 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-34 Orlowski gleefully and repeatedly makes personal attacks against people I know personally. Are you suggesting that anybody should be allowed to make personal attacks, but only the target herself should be allowed to respond? What privilges Orlowski to deserve an immunity from attacks, if you aren't willing to extend the same immunity to Dyson or Winblad or his many other targets? CAM Orlowski gleefully and repeatedly makes personal attacks against people I know personally.

Are you suggesting that anybody should be allowed to make personal attacks, but only the target herself should be allowed to respond?

What privilges Orlowski to deserve an immunity from attacks, if you aren’t willing to extend the same immunity to Dyson or Winblad or his many other targets?

CAM

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.monashreport.com/2006/03/22/goodmail-esther-dyson-andrew-orlowski-etc/#comment-33 Dennis Howlett Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:10:33 +0000 http://www.monashreport.com/?p=42#comment-33 What's the matter with you? Andrew's slamming is no worse than others I see out there. He says Dyson's idea is a bad idea - disagree with that if you want - but as to the rest...is Dyson such a wimp she can't defend herself? I doubt it. But then irony never travels well does it? What’s the matter with you? Andrew’s slamming is no worse than others I see out there. He says Dyson’s idea is a bad idea - disagree with that if you want - but as to the rest…is Dyson such a wimp she can’t defend herself? I doubt it. But then irony never travels well does it?

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