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	<title>Comments on: Why Oracle doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; about apps</title>
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		<title>By: DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Application logic in the database</title>
		<link>http://www.monashreport.com/2005/11/21/why-oracle-doesnt-get-it-about-apps/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Application logic in the database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. The myth that an application is just database-logic-plus-the-obvious-UI has been with us for a LONG time. It&#8217;s indeed a myth, for several reasons. There&#8217;s business process, for one thing. For another, UIs aren&#8217;t as trivial as that story would make them sound. (I keep promising to write on the UI point and never get around to it. I will. Stay tuned. For one thing, I have a white paper in the works on portals. For another, I&#8217;m not writing enough about analytics, and UI is one of the most interesting things going in analytics these days.) Plus there are many apps for which a straightforward relational/tabular database design doesn&#8217;t make sense anyway. (That&#8217;s a primary theme of this blog.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2. The myth that an application is just database-logic-plus-the-obvious-UI has been with us for a LONG time. It&#8217;s indeed a myth, for several reasons. There&#8217;s business process, for one thing. For another, UIs aren&#8217;t as trivial as that story would make them sound. (I keep promising to write on the UI point and never get around to it. I will. Stay tuned. For one thing, I have a white paper in the works on portals. For another, I&#8217;m not writing enough about analytics, and UI is one of the most interesting things going in analytics these days.) Plus there are many apps for which a straightforward relational/tabular database design doesn&#8217;t make sense anyway. (That&#8217;s a primary theme of this blog.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Monash Report&#187;Blog Archive &#187; SAP &#8212; the Un-Oracle</title>
		<link>http://www.monashreport.com/2005/11/21/why-oracle-doesnt-get-it-about-apps/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>The Monash Report&#187;Blog Archive &#187; SAP &#8212; the Un-Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All process, all the time If SAP has one theme and message, it&#8217;s &#8220;process.&#8221; They spend a lot of time thinking and talking about the business process of creating applications supporting the business processes of, among others, the process manufacturing industry. You hardly hear them talk about selling software or applications or infrastructure; much more commonly they talk about selling &#8220;processes.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve previously noted, this is exactly what Oracle still hasn&#8217;t really &#8220;gotten&#8221; about the apps area [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All process, all the time If SAP has one theme and message, it&#8217;s &#8220;process.&#8221; They spend a lot of time thinking and talking about the business process of creating applications supporting the business processes of, among others, the process manufacturing industry. You hardly hear them talk about selling software or applications or infrastructure; much more commonly they talk about selling &#8220;processes.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve previously noted, this is exactly what Oracle still hasn&#8217;t really &#8220;gotten&#8221; about the apps area [...]</p>
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